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	<description>“Ask forgiveness, not permission.”</description>
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		<title>By: Rev. Hellbound Alleee</title>
		<link>http://normalbobsmith.com/latestupdates/2009/03/21/arizona-blog/#comment-284</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we die as a baby, do we stay a baby forever in heaven?

If we marry more than once, which spouse do we meet in heaven? Which one shares our golden mansion?

I just heard these from someone who had his finger on the pulse of the level of thought of the average christian.  I love them. 

I had an answer to how we know information about heaven and Jesus and stuff like that if it's not in the bible. This is something most christians believe, and something you have to know. He (the Mormon boy who came to my door) said that you pray to get information. So that's how they know stuff about all the material pleasures of heaven. If they tell you they'll get back to you on a question, it's not to go find it in the bible, it's to pray until they make up good-sounding information for you. Christians apparently have access to revealed information that we don't have. That's why they can know everything and not be smart. 

I sometimes forget about the fervent belief in revealed truth. That's the whole reason we should be afraid of Christians in office. It's why the christian complaint that atheists think they know everything is not right at all. We think that we don't know everything but that the possibility exists, through the scientific method, to find out information eventually. Christians don't have to know, but if they want to, they can make anything up. So in fact they indirectly think they know everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we die as a baby, do we stay a baby forever in heaven?</p>
<p>If we marry more than once, which spouse do we meet in heaven? Which one shares our golden mansion?</p>
<p>I just heard these from someone who had his finger on the pulse of the level of thought of the average christian.  I love them. </p>
<p>I had an answer to how we know information about heaven and Jesus and stuff like that if it&#8217;s not in the bible. This is something most christians believe, and something you have to know. He (the Mormon boy who came to my door) said that you pray to get information. So that&#8217;s how they know stuff about all the material pleasures of heaven. If they tell you they&#8217;ll get back to you on a question, it&#8217;s not to go find it in the bible, it&#8217;s to pray until they make up good-sounding information for you. Christians apparently have access to revealed information that we don&#8217;t have. That&#8217;s why they can know everything and not be smart. </p>
<p>I sometimes forget about the fervent belief in revealed truth. That&#8217;s the whole reason we should be afraid of Christians in office. It&#8217;s why the christian complaint that atheists think they know everything is not right at all. We think that we don&#8217;t know everything but that the possibility exists, through the scientific method, to find out information eventually. Christians don&#8217;t have to know, but if they want to, they can make anything up. So in fact they indirectly think they know everything.</p>
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		<title>By: Atheist Named Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Atheist Named Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 21:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People always get hung up on this question of where *everything* came from. 

We clearly have no information concerning where the "Big Bang" came from. (We can at least all agree that THAT existed, right? Maybe not for some...) Given that we (and I mean "we" in the broadest sense of the word) have no information whatsoever, you can make whichever assumption you like since there's no way to prove or disprove the claim. Here, let's try some:

- We came from All Knowing Space Monkeys.
- We live on the back of a Tortoise.
- The universe is really Winnie The Pooh's eyeball. (Creepy!)
- The universe sprang into existence due to a law of physics at a higher-order dimension.
- The universe was created specifically by YHWH. (Okay... sure...)
- The due to its complexity, the universe is not an entity that can be "caused" into existence, and can appear and disappear in a probabilistic manner.

There. I just stated a number of assumptions I could make about the nature of "where" the Universe came from, and nobody can prove any of those statements true or false. So, let's all stop kidding ourselves about the assumptions that we're making and help everyone understand they are just those - assumptions. I think what ticks me off the most though is the religious person who then proceeds to argue about their own arbitrary assumptions that they've made with the premise that they're automatically right.

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I always like reminding people of the fact that they are arguing for an ultimate cause that they don't know actually exists (they suppose that this is the case), based on an the assumption of an invisible force, and then play make-believe that they can talk to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People always get hung up on this question of where *everything* came from. </p>
<p>We clearly have no information concerning where the &#8220;Big Bang&#8221; came from. (We can at least all agree that THAT existed, right? Maybe not for some&#8230;) Given that we (and I mean &#8220;we&#8221; in the broadest sense of the word) have no information whatsoever, you can make whichever assumption you like since there&#8217;s no way to prove or disprove the claim. Here, let&#8217;s try some:</p>
<p>- We came from All Knowing Space Monkeys.<br />
- We live on the back of a Tortoise.<br />
- The universe is really Winnie The Pooh&#8217;s eyeball. (Creepy!)<br />
- The universe sprang into existence due to a law of physics at a higher-order dimension.<br />
- The universe was created specifically by YHWH. (Okay&#8230; sure&#8230;)<br />
- The due to its complexity, the universe is not an entity that can be &#8220;caused&#8221; into existence, and can appear and disappear in a probabilistic manner.</p>
<p>There. I just stated a number of assumptions I could make about the nature of &#8220;where&#8221; the Universe came from, and nobody can prove any of those statements true or false. So, let&#8217;s all stop kidding ourselves about the assumptions that we&#8217;re making and help everyone understand they are just those - assumptions. I think what ticks me off the most though is the religious person who then proceeds to argue about their own arbitrary assumptions that they&#8217;ve made with the premise that they&#8217;re automatically right.</p>
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<p>I always like reminding people of the fact that they are arguing for an ultimate cause that they don&#8217;t know actually exists (they suppose that this is the case), based on an the assumption of an invisible force, and then play make-believe that they can talk to it.</p>
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