you choose to send me a terrific letter and then refuse to send along
a picture to post with it, I will make you pay, subjecting you to the
identity of who I want you to be.
Another lovely piece of fanmail.
Dear Bob, I
am grateful to have such an amusing site on the 'net to visit. I
could spend all day talking about your great website, but I'm not
going to. Instead, I'm going to tell you my story.
I live in Missouri.
It's a very strange place to live, and the accents are just horrid.
Everywhere, everyone is religious. Everyone goes to church, everyone
prays before bed and before meals. Everyone but me and my family.
My parents are christians, but they are not fanatics. They don't
believe in speaking on tongues, washing old people's feet, or sitting
in the front row at church and feeling the breath of a screaming
preacher in your face and being spat on by him. We went to a Methodist
church, until I was about 10, then we just stopped going anywhere
on Sunday because my Mother got a job. I enjoyed peaceful Sundays,
not having to hear about God this, God that, until SHE came along.
( Let's not use her real name... Let's call her Sara Jane. )
Sara Jane. I
hate that girl. She called me, 8:00 AM on a Sunday morning, and
asked, "Would you like to come to church with me today?" I'd known
her along time before this, but she never asked me to go to her
church. I knew she and her parents were very heavy into the religion,
but this just shocked me. And while I stand stunned, I uttered a
'yes'. During that point in my life, I was not very social and had
few friends, so I didn't think going to church would hurt anything.
I went all the time, for about two years, I went to church, I prayed,
I did everything. I even went to church camp, and while everyone
else received 'the spirit' all I could do was complain to God about
not being a good artist.
camp, my Godfather was hospitalized. He was ran over by his tractor.
I prayed and I prayed to God to let him be alright, but the next
morning Mother told me he'd passed away. I was pissed. I was utterly
pissed. God's a fucking bastard. Isn't it, pray and ye shall receive?
A load of bull like that? I wanted my Godfather back. He was my
best friend in the whole world. He wasn't that old, he shouldn't
have died. Let God take some older man, not my godfather.
But no, he had
to take my best friend. Stupid jackass. No more God for me. I was
through with him. Death happened, God doesn't exist. Science exists.
Science explains all, religion is just a boring book some insane
men wrote a thousand years ago. But how was I going to get out of
church? I used silly excuses: "Nope, going to grandma's house. Yes,
yes the house across the river and through the woods." "Don't feel
good. Sick." That one I used quite often. But then, Sara Jane started
to plead for me to come to church, and I flat out told her, "I don't
believe in God. You can kiss my ass." Whoo boy, did that feel good.
I was alone
in my beliefs. No one believed the same thing I did, everyone worshipped.
No one liked me. No one was happy that I began to wear black clothing
and striped panty hose. But then... then came the Internet. We got
a computer. I fell in love. I found so many people who shared my
opinions, like you, Bob.
You share my
opinions, and DAMN are you funny. I just love the dress-up Jesus
thing. Jesus is going Scuba Diving tonight.
A good, good
friend of mine gave me a link. It was www.normalbobsmith.com. Not
thinking it was anything important, I visited. Now I visit regularly,
play with the dress-up Jesus and read hate/fanmail.
I know this might be a little soon for you... but will you marry
me? We can run away together, we can elope. Do you want to marry
in Vegas? You know, the priest dressed up as Elvis? Huh?
I still have a beer now and then with friends.
Hi there Bob,
Yup, I still have a
beer now and then with friends. I shock a lot of people at the church
when I pull up on the Harley on Sunday. I still dress like a biker
and have long hair and that irritates some of my brothers and sisters
in the church. But the pastor is cool, and I've got to be true to
Satan really doesn't
influence God, The father is giving him an opportunity to prove
his point. Remember the book of job? God allowed Job to be stripped
of his worldly goods, to see if he would curse God. Job, though
suffering, wouldn't. He was a righteous man and Worshipped him regardless
of his fate. Well, to make a long story short, Satan was proved
wrong, and God restored all of Job's worldly goods, in fact, he
had more than when he started the test.
Would you like to live
with someone who you didn't like for all of eternity? Neither would
I. I suppose that's why God gives is a choice on who we serve...Him
or Satan. That seems to be the only two choices we have.
Satan has limited powers
to create, but he is no match for the Father, otherwise he would
be living in Haven now and we would be toast. LOL I ride with The
Son's of God MC, but I still have ties with the Outlaw clubs too.
I rode with the Pagans, and some other clubs, and now have the chance
to tell them the Good news. Being a Christian doesn't mean you have
to change who you are, it's means you use your talents for God,
wherever you are and do the best you can. Your soul is clean, without
sin, even though your body continually is at war with your born
again sprit. True Christians pray for one another, and help each
other, rather than judge each other.
That job belongs to The
King of Kings alone.
Signed, A friend,
Man, the more I listen
to you the less sense you're making. Did you really mean what you
said about the dinosaurs and fossils being the work of the Devil?
You can't really think that Satan falsified billion year old galaxies
to fool us into believing we evolved over a long period of time,
Would it really be so
far out to say that maybe we have evolved gradually, improved upon
ourselves throughout the centuries, developing new skills, learning
from our mistakes and advancing... as history clearly shows we do?
Do you think that our great strides in technology and our ability
to live longer and healthier are an illusion manifested by Satan
I have to tell you that
your theory on how volcano eruptions and floods are a direct result
of human sins is pretty "out there" if you don't mind me saying
so. Have you had any formal education? Would you go so far as to
say that an eclipse is an angry God shutting out the sun?
I'd really like to hear
one of your more sensible reasons for believing in God. Is it simply
because it gave you a reason to change your ways?
I dunno, it really is
going to take some serious changes in the way I logically think
things out to get on your wavelength. You seem to be able to fabricate
explanations quicker than I ever could.
learned more from the Word of God than any leaning institution
man ever devised
I guess it comes down
to the Word of God in the end, either you believe that the Bible
is Holy spirit inspired or it isn't. God is not a man that he would
lie. You obviously haven't read the Bible and seen the truths there
in. As far as an education, I've had 2 yrs. at a local college,
but I've learned more from the Word of God than any leaning institution
man ever devised
Oh, by the way, there
was no volcano's or earth quakes, or any of that garbage, before
the fall, what then, is the logical conclusion? Gee, I guess our
loving God decided to torture us. (not).
If we're so improved,
why are we doing the same things, murdering each other, stealing,
lying, and every other despicable thing that we could do to each
other? In all those years of your so called evolution, how come
we haven't improved on the basic atrocities man commits against
man? Could it be the very Sin nature if man?
Maybe God is right, and
every man is a lire. Who even gives a crap about dinosaurs anyway?
What we should care about is our neighbor, to learn to love each
other is what counts, not worrying about some bones of a long dead
If it pleases you then
go ahead and make fun of the Lamb of God, you won't be the first
to do it, and you won;t be the last. But one day you will stand
before him and have to give account of your life, we all will, God
Finally, you ask for
a good reason why I believe, I suppose that in looking at Jesus,
I see how wretched I was, and I knew in my heart of hearts, that
I needed to be set free from the law. Because I knew that I couldn't
live up to it. Tell me Bob, how will you deal with your sins? Just
a dumb ol Christian,
Signed, A friend,
Wait one second. You're
telling me there were no natural disasters before "The Fall"? I'm
not exactly sure what event you're referring to when you say "The
Fall". I think you're talking about Adam and Eve's first sin in
the garden of Eden. I honestly wasn't aware that there was ever
a time when there weren't natural disasters. I would like to hear
more of what you know about this.
As for improving over
time, I am simply stating the fact that we have improved since a
hundred years ago, a thousand years ago, ten thousand years ago.
In the same way that we've learned to adapt to life, so did the
otter learn to crack a shell with a rock, a giraffe's neck got longer
to reach the leaves higher up, and the grasshopper built a tolerance
to the poisons we made. When we grow and improve we pass it on to
the next generation... on average. That's evolution at work.
You're missing my point
about the dinosaurs. I was simply trying to illustrate that the
evidence dinosaurs existed millions of years ago strongly suggests
that the Bible may have inconsistencies, that's all. It's the same
way you'd tell if any story were true or untrue. I by no means feel
that we should care more for fossils than we care about our neighbors
and loved ones. I want to make that absolutely clear! I'm sorry
to anyone who might disagree but I firmly believe that human life
is more important than dinosaur bones. I'll fight anyone tooth and
nail on that. That's how strongly I feel on the subject.
You've asked how I deal
with my sins. The way that anyone should deal with the wrongs they
commit (and I'm sure you'll agree) is to first recognize, admit
and regret the wrong to yourself. The next step is to admit and
apologize to the effected parties of your bad deed. Finally you
need to commit to some sort of change so as not to make the same
mistake again, learn from that mistake and pass that knowledge on
to others (evolution again). I've always thought that some of those
steps are more likely to get skipped if you think that a prayer
to God is the most important part of dealing with a sin. Not following
any of these steps has its repercussions. You can lose the trust
of others, it can burden your conscience, damage a reputation, get
you in trouble with the law, get you beat up or killed or a great
number of other things. I'm not sure what you were expecting me
to say but these things all seem quite logical to me.
Man does both good and
bad. There can't be one without the other. That's the reality of
an imperfect world. We all do the best that we can, but free will
means that man will always have the opportunity to make mistakes
and sin. People who lie, cheat, steal, rape, murder or anything
else face certain repercussions of such acts here in this lifetime...
usually. I must also add that life isn't fair. Expecting there to
be some kind of punishment that equals every bad deed and a reward
for every good deed is not reality and it shouldn't be.
Boy, I feel like I'm
doin' all the explaining here and you're just sayin' "I don't care,
just worship God." while you come up with any explanation off the
top of your head no matter how wacky or illogical it may sound.
Is that what believing in God entails?
I can see you aren't ready yet to discuss the Word of God
Just for my own curiosity,
what do you believe in? Do you believe we evolved from an ameba
that was brought to life by a lightning strike in a primordial soup
of a sea? And then evolved in to sea creatures and finally crawled
on to the land, and became life as we know it?
No, I don't think even
you believe that theory. You must believe in God because you told
me that He didn't answer your prayers. Why is it so hard for you
to believe that all that is good in the world is from God, and all
that is bad is from Satan? Really, it's that simple, unless your
an atheist, and believe in nothing.
I could explain to you
that the world was made perfect, and that we allowed Satan to become
lord over the earth, by bring sin into God's perfect world. Do you
realize that sin is simply disobeying God? whether it is eating
from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, or not obeying
the Ten Commandments.
How is it then, as smart
a man as you are, doesn't see the truth of the scriptures? We could
go round and round on these things, but I can see you aren't ready
yet to discuss the Word of God, for it is only there the answers
you seek are A servant of the Most High,
Well I was on the verge
of buyin' into your whole "existence of God" thingy until you assured
me that there was no possible way He could be under the powers of
Satan. That blew it for me. Sorry 'bout that.
You described this exchange
we've had as "going around in circles" as if you've answered all
of my questions and I'm just being difficult. Here on my end however
it's clear that you aren't ready to discuss the probability of evolution.
In fact, I don't think you care at all about my questions and you'll
say anything to explain your god without regard for common sense,
proof, logic, the facts of life, or even my own gullibility.
At the very least, evolution
can be explained without sounding like you're a mental patient.
Animals seem to change and adapt to their environment over extended
periods of time. That's evolution. Did you know that a mole's eyes
are small and blind because that's the way they've evolved as a
result of their environment? The biggest, strongest gorillas are
the ones that reproduce the most and this makes the gorillas bigger
and stronger in the long run. Man, explaining this stuff to you
is like talking to an eight year old.
In the same way that
dogs are bred for show, sled pulling or rat catching, so does nature
promote and demote living organisms. I'm not talkin' about all of
this happening over several thousand years (your Bible's timeline
of our planet), I'm talkin' about millions and millions of years!
If we can teach a gorilla sign language or breed a stubby
legged cat or a featherless
chicken to better suit our purposes then giving an ameba
a million years to become a tadpole seems more than probable...
I guess that I don't
see the "truth" in your scriptures because you tell me that Satan
has falsified the evidence of the dinosaur, the universe, evolution
and quite possibly the Munchkin kitty cat.
Talking to you has convinced
me that I have the choice between atheism or the steady, mind-numbing
fall into an answerless well of confusion and madness. I guess I
I'm not fighting with
you, you just sound like you're kinda skitzo. If you're just playin'
make-believe because you want to live forever, now that I'd understand.
you would rather read a newspaper than the Word of God, it's
useless to try and show you the truth
Every answer I gave you
is from the scriptures, if it comes down to your theory of evolution
or the Bible, I'll take the Bible every time. Since you would rather
read a newspaper than the Word of God, it's useless to try and show
you the truth. It is written. "Don't cast your pearls before swine.
lest they trample them in the mud." So go ahead and serve your god,
whatever it is, as for me I choose the LORD. Maybe someday you'll
be in a place to see with your spiritual eyes, but not today. Have
a good life
"Spiritual eyes"? Are
those the eyes that look past facts, my well being and the obvious?
Answer me this. What is it that makes you different from any other
cult out there claiming to speak for God? Since everything you believe
can't be proved, validated or even questioned why can't everything
you've said to argue for your God be used to argue for their God?
That's all I ask... and something you need to ask yourself.