I just read hatemail page 67 with the letter from your parents'
pastor. Really good stuff there. His letter really highlights
the "holier than thou" attitude, and "I know that you are a
miserable, hate-filled lost soul" stereotype that so many hardcore
bible thumpers seem to operate with. Your response was level-headed,
respectful and even-handed. Very good material, definitely continuing
the trend of elevating the quality of the site. The fact that
its such a personal connection for you, and that you share it,
really adds a level of connection with the readers.
comment on the page:
I cannot tolerate the abuse of logic that christians use to
"support" their arguments. This line in the middle of the
letter really makes me desire insanity to take over, so things
will seem normal: "After all, if he [Jesus] claims to be who
he says he is, then God is for real."
I reading this right??? Doesn't this say, "If he claims to
be who he claims to be, then God is real"? I re-read the paragraph
and do not think it is out of context when standing on its
own. This is NOT an example of a logical argument. Hey Bob,
I can shoot lightning bolts out of my eyes. Its true, so I'd
appreciate it if you would start letting your readers know
that there is a guy in CA that CAN REALLY SHOOT LIGHTNING
BOLTS FROM HIS EYES! Its true, because I claimed it to be
true. Bite me. lol.
Ive been reading your site from week 3 roughly. I can tell
from what Ive read that you are compassionate, passionate,
and considerate person. The fact that this pastor does not
understand this, shows A) His lack of willingness to take
more than a cursory view the site before judging your character.
B) His inability to honestly perceive the character of others
that fall outside of his "how you should live to be judged
a good person" definition. The real topper is that I thought
the judging was to be done by God, not the pastors. WTF is
up with him judging you and claiming to be a christian? I
think the pastor may be stepping out of the hierarchal structural
line there. Can't be a good sign when the preachers are taking
on god's direct responsibilities. Heck, next they will be
creating new creatures and resurrecting the dead. : )
Keep up the good work,
came across your site the other day while researching a sermon
on Atheism. (He's a Protestant vicar and he kicks arse...)
of Pastor Bob sent him into paroxysms of laughter and rage.
(Quite scary to behold actually... I've never seen him get
so worked up!) He couldn't believe that a guy so narrow-minded
is a vicar!
round and saying the man needs medication through the faceless
medium of E-mail! Unforgivable!" (verbatim.)
my Da has some strong opinions on Religion and Christianity,
(He wouldn't be a vicar if he didn't right?)but his views
are mainly a result of him being a counselor to the soldiers
that took Hiroshima a couple of weeks after they dropped the
bomb. He fervently believes that freedom of thought was God's
gift to Man and has no trouble whatsoever with any other religion/belief-system.
says Pastor Bob needs to get out more because quite a lot
of young(-ish) people (myself included)that were raised as
Christian but now don't believe in God.
I always thought that tolerance was a Christian watchword?
Turn the other cheek and all that.
the good work! Your site rocks!
20 Mar 2002 08:45:21 -0500
Here's what I am curious about with you: Why?
Nice job. Couple of things: First of all, I had no desire
to exercise my ego. I wrote in order to challenge you to think
things through as well as feel things through. And that was
actually the reason. I gather I failed. But ho-hum, so be
Did I respond
emotionally? Of course I did. But we are talking about emotional
issues. Besides, your site is loaded with your own emotions,
so why apologize for mine.
I dislike atheists?
Dear me, but we had better clear this one up. In undergrad
my closest buddy was a raving atheist. In grad school I did
research with an atheist who I thought highly of. And my best
friend of 30 years was an atheist up until about 10 years
ago. Now he is an agnostic, bless his heart. I also admire
some of Bertrand Russel's work (not sure I've got that spelled
right). But to be honest Bob, I don't believe any of them
were, or are, true atheists. I don't believe you are either.
They, and yoiu may be pissed off at God. I'll buy that. But
a true atheist, by definition, believes God to be a non-entity;
a nonsense notion not worth spending time on. Why expend energy
reacting to something which has no impact on reallity? A true
atheist will say, and mean, "don't bother me with such things.
They don't figure into my life." Carl Sagan was a true atheist,
who admitted he would liked to have believed but just couldn't
do it. Nothing to get all bent out of shape over. Just couldn't
The crux of it
is this: Me thinks thou dost protest too loudly...much too
Here's what I am curious about with you: Why? Because we Christians
are closed minded? No more so than you.
I'm sorry you
are so bloody angry. As a therapist it actually concerns me
for some very good reasons which I won't bother to go into
since you'll blow them all off.
Wish you well.
23 Mar 2002 12:32:07 -0600
I can see by your
"ho-hum's" and "dear me's" that you've closed your mind off
to anything I've got to say. If you see nothing funny about
what I'm doing here then I certainly won't convince you of
my intentions. I suppose that I'm angry at the movies I review
A year and a half
ago (when I first started this site) I anticipated the "thoust
dost protest too much" accusation. It comes with the territory,
but definitely not worth holding back my opinion over. You've
given a 50¢ diagnosis that required very little thought or
My life was structured
around religion, so I can't simply take Carl Sagan's "It doesn't
figure into my life" route. Facing the reality that there
is no afterlife or an all caring entity in the sky was the
scariest thing I ever went through. It's a valid experience
that changed my life considerably, I'm not going to let you
deny me that.
I took a moment
today to imagine what it'd be like to be angry, angry at God,
and then "bloody angry". If I were any of these things it
would show itself in the form of unreasonable dialogue, humorless
rants, and violent/ vulgar drawings. Jesus Dress Up could
easily be worse... but it's humor, not revenge.
I understand why
you need to take the angle that I believe in God and that
this is my way of lashing out at Him. You are unable to consider
Godlessness or relate to its reality. I've been there. You've
got no other explanation for what I'm doing, so I will answer
you "why", honestly and frankly.
I am a show-off. I like to entertain people and enjoy the
attention. I think that it's an extremely interesting subject
and I'm very opinionated on it. It is also an emotional issue
for me, but anger plays no part.
Thoust dost protest
too much indeed Pastor Bob. I think that you've got many issues
that keep you from properly examining human behavior without
prejudice. Your Christianity is the least of them. I would
like to challenge you. I would like you to make-believe that
I am doing this for the comedy, self expression and chicks.
Leave out the anger... and you might just get it.