you asked for it. Here's what I have to say about weenie boy.
Letter: It shows that he thinks your site is to
convert people (just like the goal of Christianity is conversion
of the masses) and the idea that maybe your site IS a form of therapy
for you eludes him completely. If he has followed your site from
the beginning and still can't recall all the information you have
gathered and presented about the changes in your life, as well as
new studies on how our minds can manipulate our emotions, perspectives,
and lives.... well then he's the only unintelligent one here.
Mocking "modern" thought? HUH? I have no earthly idea what he's
talking about. I thought the whole point of our modern society is
the idea that people have the freedom to figuire things out for
themselves, in their own way, rather than blindly submitting to
the status quo. Modern ideas of "justice," "freedom," "equality,"
and "responsibility" have nothing to do with energy, or faeries,
or any of that crap unless you believe it and structure your personal
life around them.
Jason also doesn't understand is that your conclusions are frankly
none of his business. How or why you came to your beliefs, how they
affect your life, and the consequences of your actions are your
responsibility and your right. And it has absolutely nothing to
do with him or his life, unless he chooses to be offended by it.
And yes, we as humans are not living up the potential of our brains.
But anyone who knows anything about evolution (biological, psychological,
and/or sociological) knows that adaptation and change occurs over
time. There was an article out about a year ago stating that people
are beginning to use more of their brains because of the technology
and information that is now available to us, but there is no way
we could make the huge leap from potential to reality without the
rest of our world changing as well.
doesn't comprehend that people learn from interaction, and not from
nonsensical rants. I have been following your posts on NoBS.com
for over a year now. I have seen you share what you believe, show
what you have found true in your own experience, and I respect you
for it. You respond to debates with an open mind and attacks with
a sense of humor, and that's more than he can say. Jason has shown
nothing of himself in his emails, except for consistent misspelling
of the word "intelligent," belligerent thought processes, and sloppy
reasoning skills. I can see what he is trying to argue about auras
and alternative ideas that are not yet (and may never be) completely
mainstream, but he is doing a horrible job at it. This isn't a debate
at all, it's an embarrassment.
thinks you don't find beauty and amazing things in your life (world)
then I don't think he has ever really appreciated or understands
what you have been posting on the NoBS site. Even before I met you
and we talked face to face, I could read in your posts that you
appreciate the world you have found yourself in, and are making
for yourself. I would have never emailed you to compliment your
site, and ask you to meet me for coffee if I thought you had nothing
to say. If Jason would read with understanding, then perhaps he
would see how nonsensical his emails really are because they only
show that he has no understanding of the ideas you are trying to
convey. And I will never, ever understand why the believers think
that non-believers have to replace the idea of God with something
else. I suppose the idea that we simply exist in our world and appreciate
what each day brings is beyond the thought processes of someone
who is living for the afterlife.
I have rambled on and on, and still haven't made it past his first
two letters, but frankly, I'm already bored and after glancing at
the others, I have no real interest in what he has to say at this
moment. I'll see if I can stomach them tomorrow after I've slept.
having a problem with evolution..."
Had lots of fun reading it.
I'm still trapped by this insane concept of GOD. I just cant
seem to get away from it. I understand what you are saying
and certain portions do make sense. I'm having a problem with
evolution though. It hasn't been proven. I understand Animals
changing themselves to with stand the current environment,
but what I don't understand is why a bunch of rocks and water
decided to organize themselves in to "living" beings and start
enjoying rock music, sex, drugs, and cool shit like that.
It doesn't make any sense to me. Then, on top of that, only
certain rocks and water got together to do this, most of it
didn't. Then, these "so called living" organisms consume "dead"
material in order to sustain its "life". What kind of stupid
ass shit is this? Its the dumbest damn thing in the entire
universe. Why did this planet need people? What's the point?
The planet certainly doesn't need us here!! All we do is fuck
it up drilling for oil and shit.
don't know, this GOD stuff makes more sense to me. I don't
know why. I can only believe that some GOD, who never dies,
never cries, never has anything else better to do, would create
a system as senseless as evolution. Oh yeah, Jesus seems cool.
He hung around the strip clubs etc. He came to "save" the
wicked like me. Oh well, its fucking late, I think I'll go
download some more free music and movies while the connections
is still good...
You have just painted
the scenario of two rocks rubbing together to make a duck,
the duck feeding off of sand and reproducing with nothing...
and now here we are being force-fed Kid Rock. If this is the
argument you've got against atheism, you haven't put enough
thought into it.
Have you ever seen
a cell divide in two? All that it needs is water to survive,
not living organisms you shit-for-brains. This is all there
needs to be to sustain life. Did you know that water has been
found on other planets? If it is there it can be anywhere.
This tells me that a life sustaining element has existed long
before planet Earth. Maybe even forever? Why not?
I believe that
an infinite universe (with an option to sustain life) is far
more probable than a human god, holy spirit, everlasting creator
and paradise in the heavens. And an endless universe with
an infinite amount of time (that has the possibility of sustaining
life) really expands the probability of us existing at some
But if you can
explain why the life of your god is more probable than our
own I'd like to hear it. And then ask yourself this: "Where
did that plan come from?".
most amazing thing happened during my initial reading of the next
response. I was able to tap into some unused portion of my brain
and psychically read the inner workings of Duane's subconscious
as he wrote his email to me! Of course I am delighted to include
what I heard within the letter that he sent.
I put his inner-thoughts in blue
text next to what he actually wrote in black
so happy you took the time to respond to this shit for brains.
Hey, an email! That makes 3
this week! I love it when conversations start this
way. Thanks Alot.
you say I haven't put much though in to it eh?
Wait until he sees the thoughts I've had! I could write an
episode of Star Trek! Well, first of all, I've
never eaten live anything... or at least it wasn't alive when
it hit my intestinal track. So, where in my post did I say
anything about the living consuming the living?
Fact is... I didn't. So you're wrong on that point.
these 'so called living' organisms consume "dead" material
in order to sustain its "life". What kind of stupid ass shit
I'll just play dumb. It'll go away if I ignore it.
Now, Should I put an "OK" and an
"Um" here too? Nah, too casual... you ask me have
I ever seen A cell divide in two... yes I have... on GPTV.
He knows he's in trouble now!
Fascinating isn't it? Twist the knife!
Then you state that all it needs is water to survive. Ok...
fine... ONE DAMN CELL needing only water to survive, but last
I checked in the most smallest of complex organisms we are
talking hundreds of cells. In my
world there is no such thing as consummating. Why
do you breathe? Why do you eat? Tell you what... stop
breathing and drink only pure water and see how long you live.
Humans are the same as the smallest
living organism... at least I am. If the cells
in your body only needed water your ass would never stop at
burger king. After all, what in hell does your cells need
mmm, burgers for breakfast... with vitamin A, B,
C, D, E... fucking oxygen? What are those cells going to do
with it? Just drink water. You'll live (yeah right). Ha
ha ha! God, I'm a stitch! I wrote that he wouldn't live and
then I wrote "You'll live (Yeah right)" and I made that up
myself! And those two cells.. well, they become
4... then eight. I guess those cells are just going to continue
to shrink cause what ever material made those cells is eventually
going to run out. Because living
things aren't made up of very much water. Damn, I'm a good
point maker... so why can't I get laid? I wonder
how many times have cells split on this planet?
I know he doesn't got the answer for this one! This "DE-BATE-ING"
tell me, what good is a cell that isn't doing anything? Now
that I've successfully explained how life stands still, I'll
pull out the big guns and explain how stupid cells
are. Cells just sitting around surviving because
they have the water they need doing nothing are as good as
dead... very useless. It's the "complex
cell" that sits and does nothing... because it's TOO
So, why is it that one useless cell living in water combines
itself with other useless cells and then wa la... sex...drugs...
rock N roll... and opinions? I'm
going to argue against the most basic cycles of life, like
how tadpoles don't become frogs.
another thing... water sustains life... but where does the
life come from for water to sustain?
I'd like to see him explain that... because my explanation
doesn't have anything to do with life as we know it!
See, I don't think you quite understand. EVERYTHING came from
ATOMS I think that's why God named
him "Adam"? Oh, I'll explain that later.
(or at least the particles which make up atoms)!! Atoms by
themselves don't give a shit about anything (GOD, Taxes, or
otherwise). Hydrogen (Atom) got together with Oxygen (Atom)
to form water. Now, where did this other shit come, from (life,
bacteria.. viruses)? Hey!! other mother freaking atoms!! DNA
is not an element by itself. It comes from some kind of ACID.
But, you don't get ACID without atoms. So, you haven't even
touched my original statement. You still can't explain why
all these atoms got together to do all of this. THERE WAS
NO REASON!! Jeez, if Bob would just
look at nature he'd see that nothing grows or comes together
to make anything. And how long has the universe REALLY been
around? 4,000 years according to the Bible? That's not EVEN
enough time for all of this to happen!
can go on and on, my evenings are
free for the rest of the year... but really you
haven't even touched my original points. I'm beginning to
think you didn't even read what I wrote.
Now, for the other part about explaining the life
of GOD etc. I don't know it all. In
fact, what I don't know could fill a quarry. I
cant possibly know it all. I hardly
know some things.. I cant prove to you GOD
exist... only he can do that. Well,
Him and the Devil... but God's got him trapped in Hell. I
suppose that Angels could prove it too, but they're watchin'
God's back, 'cause they're the good guys.. like me!
I really don't understand your last question.
What day is it today? GOD created us in his image
so life comes from him. If you believe that a big large mass
of stuff sitting out in the middle of no where can just explode
(after being dormant for who knows how long and we still don't
know where this ball of mass came from) then the existence
of GOD is just as feasible. Now Adam
and Eve, that's feasible. That fits into my "believe whatever"
motto. You can not explain with total truth where
this universe came from nor can I explain with total truth
where GOD came from. This is where
I give myself legal license to separate completely from logical
thinking into the magical world of an over active imagination.
Join me! We both have the same task at hand. You
believe everything happened just because. I believe GOD exist
I relish in keeping the word "exist"
singular. and I frankly don't care where he came
from. He can be a pop tart about to be eaten in 5 GOD minutes
but as far as we were concerned he'd still be GOD. I
should really go to an "open mic" night somewhere and get
difference between our two arguments is that the physical
properties they may or may not exist where ever GOD exist
may allow for such random acts of creation.
Hmm, that sentence looks weird... but it made sense in my
head, so I'm sure it's OK. Imagine a place where
snow can survive in a fire? Time
to give this fella an impressive dose of where God lives.
GOD in truth may actually exist in that kind of environment
which explains why no one in the bible can give heaven true
descriptional justice. Except for
the fire/ice description. However, in the world
in which I live everything happens for a reason... everything!!
Cause and Effect... Every action has and equal and opposite
reaction. This universe is a place of reason... GOD's universe
is probably isn't. In God's universe
even basic grammar is beyond reason!
this is just where I spout my mouth about the relationship
between man and GOD. Finally I can
quit trying to make sense and rest my tired brain.
So, I'm not trying to prove or disprove anything here (below).
Its long as hell and you being an atheist will probably make
you laugh until your sides split. I don't blame you.
I'll believe anything. Try me! I am beyond reason as well!
This shit is crazy as hell but it makes sense to me... oh
well. I've made my choice. ...believe
stuff I can't even believe. Oh well.
made everything and my book says he made us in his own image,
God looks like us! Got it? then our life is actually
his life. When we die, a piece of
Him dies. Like twins! Sounds stupid... I admit.
but that's what I believe. Oh well.
But GOD isn't bound by the physical properties
of this universe. He created it so he can exist apart from
it. Why would he spawn all these angels etc.
You see, angels are God's babies, we're the angel's babies,
and our babies are the animals... and so on! If
you were GOD... would you want to be alone?
Or would you create Duane Terrell to keep you company?
To break a piece of yourself off and grant it freewill is
amazing. There are so many amazing
tales I've yet to tell. Wait untiI I tell you of Munchkin
Land! It's kind of like if you were to clone yourself.
Think about it.
We are all clones of God! Wait a sec. I probably shouldn't
over emphasize that we're all little Gods. You
take a cell from your body. You combine it with some egg and
you have the perfect split image of your self,
and the egg's self... oh, stop being so particular! it
acts somewhat like you but it is separate, having its own
desire. We're Angel-clones put on
Earth to battle the evil Satan... don't you see?
it can be kind of like having a child. Think about it. You
have two people who share each other lives. They get together
and these two lives combines to create how many children you
want to have. Or in my case, I can't
even get to first base, but I digress. Each child
may have similar behaviors to the parent but they are all
free thinkers. Except for me. I'll
buy anything some guy behind a podium tells me to.
GOD can spawn himself in much the same way. So, when GOD realized
his own existence (if there were ever such a moment).
Should I put a period there? Dammit, it's so much easier when
I tell these stories by a campfire. He created
Angles. Obtuse angles, acute angles...
hell, He made every angle! But the angles had a
draw back. Now, you would think that a GOD who is perfect
would get it right the first time, and since I am not a bible
scholar Nor a high school graduate.
Hell I can hardly keep the nachos from comin' out my mouth
when I read to myself. I cant say GOD ever said
he was perfect.. I know he said the earth was good or perfect.
Nor have I ever read where GOD said we would agree with everything
he did. What I may recall is him saying... HEY I'm GOD...
my way... or the highway... but that's a different subject.
Where do I come up with this stuff?!
Ha! Thou shall not kill is not the same as saying...
You shall not kill and neither will I, nor will I send people
to kill you. But I am off subject.
That should take care of his "Why does God kill us when
He says thou shalt not kill" retort I'm anticipating.
about the Angle draw back.. I call it Rich mans syndrome.
And I capitalized the "R".
Don't ask me why, that's just what I do. Let's
assume that you were a wealthily man. You had your "friends"
over ever day partying. That's it
Duane, paint the picture with words. How would
you know if these people were your friends or if they were
just using you because you had money? How many times have
you heard stories of rich people going poor and only finding
out who their true friends where when they didn't have anything?
And when you found out that those
people were using you, didn't you want them to burn in Hell
for the rest of eternity? Well, that's all God wants too.
Its a story told over and over again.
GOD gave the Angles everything. They only had to feed his
The god I worship makes Himself invisible AND craves attention.
Get it? I know... doesn't sound like a nice word
or very Godlike to use
but he is the same GOD who said he was Jealous. Remember,
he made us in his image. He thinks
perverted thoughts, spreads gossip, blankets His fears in
ignorance and craves sweets. Every single emotion
we have so does he. Especially "love".
That's why He's the God for me! But feeding the
ego of your rich friend is easy when he's feeding you steaks
every night isn't it? Sure it is. One other thing... Since
Heaven has everything in abundance there is only one commodity...
LOVE. You see, it's like money there.
Your average 2 acre cloud goes for about 60,000 pieces of
"love". The coins are valentine shaped!
Love rules everything. GOD is love. When you feed GOD's ego
because you love him (you want to), then every thing is cool.
Of course Angles loved each other. After all, we on this planet
don't just love GOD and not each other... same as there. If
the Angles loved each other it was the same as loving him.
Hmm, I wonder if I should be institutionalized?
this is where we came in. GOD needed something more.
Angels are such a bore! He needed people who were
tempted, People He could fuck with,
judge and destroy. which is the quickest way I
can explain it. People who really had to choose him over something
else. And sacrifice their eternal
lives just so that God could get His ego stroked.
In heaven.. he was the only game in town. Its almost like
if you had two friends and one extra ticket to the football
game. Mmm, I wish you could get
hot-dogs with butterscotch on 'em. Which friend
would you take? If you only had one friend then the choice
is easy. The choice is REALLY
easy for me then. So, he created this Universe,
gave it properties and put two people in it. The rules were
simple. Eat this tree... not this one. He also gave us punishment
and reward. Eat the tree of life... you continuing living...
eat this tree... and
you die. The world he gave this two people was excellent.
"Trees of death", doesn't
that world sound excellent?!
was the problem? Lucifer (Satan) didn't like it.
He's the villain in my story. Gosh! I like stories.
I have no doubt he probably loved GOD with all his might but
this little experiment broke his heart... and a lot of other
Angels as well. He probably begged GOD to get rid of us. GOD
refused and even Lucifer probably began to question GOD'S
origin and what right he had over anything. So, Satan set
out to destroy GOD. I hope Bob sees
the conflict I've created and which side is the good side.
He hated him at this point. Now, Heaven it self was at WAR.
But how do creatures who can not die fight? I don't know.
But this is a very intelligent question
I've brought up. Note to self: Contrive fantastic tale of
what war in Heaven is like. I guess you would have
had to be their. I took care of that
point rather nicely.
Satan lost and was sent here. To
Earth, in sin format. Its kind of a punishment
per say. The punishment of getting
us to sin and receiving our eternal souls to do with as he
pleases. If you don't like them... then go live
with them. But Satan had other plans. He set out to deceive
and deceive he has done ever since.
Oh he's so evil! Everything evil is what Satan is. Just like
how everything good is what God is. It's so perfect! Don't
you see? Satan only has one Goal in mind and that
to make sure as many of us ignores GOD as possible. Satan
makes us question GOD existence and he is very clever at it.
He knows the Universe backwards and forwards and will stop
at nothing to destroy us. Well,
he stops at anything that could possibly reveal his existence,
but he stops at nothing after that! He
hates GOD and he hates us. He will cater to your desires.
He knows we are much like GOD in a sense but we cant fix the
things we break. Except for mechanical
devices... and surgery, and stuff like that. Oh and taping
stuff fixes things too... oh nevermind.
is just my opinion. I could be 100% right... I could be 100%
wrong. I could be 50% right. Ok,
debate is not my strong point... along with common sense and
making toast. But I have had the same struggle
as you. And this was my conclusion.
I gave up rationalizing all of this years ago. I'll
love Jesus... I'll love GOD no matter what.
Make-believe or hiding, I just love the Guy! I
ain't perfect. I do my share of shit.
Excessive masturbation. But I will give credit
where credit is due. My life...my existence... belong to him.
I'm tired of writing now. My imagination
is exhausted! But I'm sure you just had the funniest
read of your life. Glad I could be so entertaining to you.
Thank you for the
email Duane. I've taken what you've said very seriously.
You've given me a lot to think about.