been a few technical difficulties this past week... but nothing
that'll stop the
letters are in blue and mine are in
black and white.
to the ladies that keep me inspired!
Bob! I just have to say that your site ROCKS MY SOCKS! I too
am a fellow Atheist and damn proud of it. I have to say, I've
never stood up for myself and my beliefs until I came across
your website. I used to always just walk outta the room whenever
my folks brought up Catholicism,I didn't even wanna DEAL with
their hypocritical babble. I don't know what all those bible
thumpers were thinkin' when they thought they could "save"
the All Mighty Normal Bob Smith. Did they actually think they
could turn you around with a few measley, worthless E-mails???
mean, C'mon people! You're wasting your time! Anyway, keep
up the awesome artwork and website! Gotta love that Jesus
Dress Up! Keep em' cummin'! ::Evil Grin:: Bye-4-now!
wasn't going to write to you until i finished reading everything
on your website, but i changed my mind because i am in a writing
mood and don't want to waste it. though, i really wish i could
just sit down and have a conversation with you, since written
expression is one of my weakest areas.
have been so full of hate for religion, and unfortunately,
religious people, since i moved to the bible belt that i spend
most of my time in a despondent funk. it is so difficult because
there are so many christians that i respect, and yet i don't
respect their beliefs. i don't know how to reconcile these
attitudes. and there are quite a few christians i have to
deal with (my boyfriend's baptist family) on a regular basis
that i don't respect at all, but have to constantly pretend
to... and pretend to be christian around. i hate that christians
think i am immoral because i am an atheist. i think i know
what love is better than they do, because i credit myself
for the love i give to those i choose to give it to, not some
"higher power". the christians who write to you about how
you are blaspheming their beliefs, and disrespecting and offending
them fill me with such an intense mixture of negative emotions
because they don't realize how they disrespect and offend
atheists (or me anyway; i can't speak for all atheists), and
how they blaspheme my beliefs by refusing reason. it angers
me to hear them blame "people like you" for the state of the
world, when it is their unreason, illogic, and intolerance
that makes the world a place of such suffering for me.
am very bitter, and i don't want to be anymore. i want to
divorce myself from this world run by idiots. i don't want
to be a part of it. i think if i could think of myself as
separate from it all, that i would feel a lot better.
thing that inspires me most about your site is that you don't
hate. your website has made me feel a lot better about the
world. i've been greatly lacking the company of fellow atheists,
and it's been difficult to stay grounded and not feel opressed
don't want to feel like a victim to society anymore, and i
know the power to quit feeling that is all in me. i think
if i were as witty and clever as you, if i had your gift of
expression, that i would have the means to fight back, and
to fight the growing disdain in my heart. as it is, i only
fantasize of herding christians into a false eden with flame-throwers
(while scantily clad in leather with purple stripes in my
hair and blue sunglasses) and nuking the place. don't worry
about my sanity... it's just a fantasy. i wish i had the talent
of comedy to allay my dark feelings.
am sorry for being so serious, but thanks to you, i am able
to laugh at the world again. it doesn't last long, so i visit
your site often. i have gotten involved with the message boards
so i have some atheist people to talk to, and i've been avoiding
being serious there. i think it's better that way. i am simply
apologize for the ramblingness (i enjoy making up words) of
my letter. i don't really know how to organize my thoughts.
it's something i've been working on since i discovered the
internet and had the desire to actually communicate with people,
but my style is a work-in-progress. any tips or criticism
would be welcome, though what i really need is a good mentor.
i'm sure you're too busy to take the job, but it can't hurt
to ask. there is actually much more i wanted to say, but i
can't remember what it all was. would you mind if i e-mailed
you again sometime?
conclude -- and give you more of an idea of who i am -- here's
a paragraph of random things about myself:it is my goal in
life to become a bad-ass chick. i am 23 and live in fort worth.
i would probably have a crush on you if you didn't look like
my brother and i wasn't already incredibly in love. i play
the guitar (a little better than mediocre, but not well enough
to be in a band... well, maybe as rythm); i love science fiction;
i'm a perfectionist when it comes to spelling, but i've never
done well in english classes; i love mathematics, and when
i finally get around to going to college, that's probably
what i'll major in... or maybe photography; i can't draw worth
shit, but i can make pretty pictures on the computer; i have
a tattoo on my shoulder; and i have a tendency to ramble when
i can't pinpoint exactly what i want to say.
i hope you like the picture i included. it's the only one
i have right now. when the day comes that i get a digital
camera and have done some more interesting things with my
life, i hope to make it onto your super chic pages.
i'd go through and capitalize all the appropriate letters
for you, but it's 4 in the morning, and i'm just too damn
just saw your site today, and it is the best thing I've seen
in a long, long time. I have always had a problem with the
"Christian thing." These so-called Christians have always
managed to make me feel as if I should be burning at the stake
or something. I often have people coming up to me and handing
me "Jesus saves" literature (I must have a look that says
"condemned soul" or something). Anyway, I hope that you can
see this photo I sent, because it's kind of dark. It should
get my message across.
can not defeat God."
You can not defeat God.
God is the ruler of the world. He created it en He made also
you. In love. And He loves you.
Of course I've
defeated Him. That's His Son there on the cross in case you
didn't know. I made that! By my count that's Bob - 1 &
Jesus - 0
I'm a whole point
ahead. Don't you see?
And what can your God do about it? I'll tell you what. Nothin'.
Not a goddamned thing. He may try, but he will fail. And you
worship the Guy? HA!
He had to learn
His lesson the hard way.
counting is not ok."
your counting is not ok.
day that Jesus died, satan was shaking. Because he knew that
he cannot make anything to say to God that the people are
wrong. Oke, we are all wrong, but the offer that Jesus made,
makes Him standing between our sins and our God. So, satan
has nithing more to say tot God. The battle is lost. For satan.
are you so hard for youreself? Why the hate?
Sorry if my englisch is that wright, I'm from Europe.
I hope to see your answer.
I greatly appreciate
the apology. I had to go over your letter several times, my
brain ached ever so slightly, and this doodle I'm including
was a result.
Maybe the translation
is muddled, but it reads as if you're asking why I make things
so hard on myself and why do I hate. Is this what you're asking?
It also seems like
you think that there is a good supreme being and a bad supreme
being that are involved in some sort of battle, and it leaves
the bad supreme being shaking with fear and hopelessness.
But I'm sure that
something has to
be getting lost here in the translation as well... unless
you think that these things are happening in another realm...
or do you already understand that it's in your head and you're
seeking treatment of some sort?
"Maybe the real God happens when
people respect, love, care, and support each other's human
like there's some major dissapointment with god on the website.
I kinda think I know where you're at with that. Personally,
I try to remember that all the god / religion biz (you-name-it:
churches, theologians, preachers, ministers, Jerry Falwell,
etc.) is just that - a business, maybe the 3rd oldest profession?
Anyway, seems like it's not God's fault for the weirdo stories,
"truths", miracles (special effects) , "satan" (the bad guy),
and other propaganda & crap that people put out for one reason
or another. There's some really sick god stuff out there and
people are getting hurt by it.
seems like when some people talk about "God" they really mean
their little own "god" whatever they create that to be, and
then claim it's the real deal "God". The trouble with all
the little 'gods' is that they can't really do anything -
they're somebody's fantasy or nightmare or both that they
want to lay as a headtrip on others. But, I don't hold it
against God that people lie, cheat, steal, and try to pretend
that their lesser 'god' is the real Guy / Gal.
translations of the Christian Bible contain modern re-intrepretations
of ancient "official" jesus stories written down by people
living in long-extinct cultures. Usually things were written
long after the actual events happened and I would not hold
that against God or Jesus. Jesus died (was murdered) becaue
he tried to help free people from the chains that enslaved
them; whether cultural, social, or psychological.
ran headlong into the comfortable status-quo; the powers-that-be
who were threatened by people thinking and acting for themselves
and paid the price. The dress-up thing is sorta funny and
maybe a money maker, but it's slaming the wrong guy too.
Maybe the real God happens when people respect, love, care,
and support each other's human flourishing.
First, rest assured that Jesus Dress Up does not make money,
and it's more than sorta funny. You should also know that
ANY talk of a god up in the sky sounds foolish to me... whether
He's the God in peoples heads or a misunderstood god.
that the symbol on my site represents a god... not a guy who
freed slaves. But this is all beside the point because it's
only a joke. A drawing on the net. It makes no difference
in the grand scheme of anything. It's called humor.
As for your "God
happens when people respect, love, care, and support each
other's human flourishing" is a bunch of B.S. I have no idea
what this means. Supporting every idea conceived by everyone
is a foolish idea in itself. Or if you're saying respect,
love & caring for everyone should be the priority... would
we still be allowed do disagree at all? Maybe comedy is bad?
"You are pretty sacreligious."
are pretty sacreligious. And I got very offended from your
site. you shouldn't have a DRESS UP JESUS..... and then you
have the nerve to call it YOUR MASTERPIECE. I think that's
the crappiest site i've been to. And the cruelist.... don't
you have anything better to do with your time?
You sound so content
with your life. Heck, you've sold me, where do I sign up?
good enough to come between me and god"
a nice come back.... but not good enough to come between me
entire website seems to be devoted to the question of
why people worship and have any kind of religion"
entire website seems to be devoted to the question of why
people worship and have any kind of religion. Well, as long
as there has been people there has been religion. There's
no disputing that whether you're talking about naturalistic
religions (native american, african, neanderthal etc.) or
non- native religions (christianity, buddhism, islam, some
forms of hindu) there has always been religion. There used
to be no accepted alternative to religion.
you were born on a desert island and there was no one else
and no culture you would create your own religion as you grew
up alone on that desert island. there was no other way to
explain the things we now know scientifically, night and day,
tides, etc. Your human instinct would create God or gods to
help you understand the things you couldn't understand intellectually.
This is the origin of religion and that's why people are emailing
your site with hate mail telling you your going to hell. Because
they don't understand everything in their world so they need
God to make sense of the world around them. People have based
their world view on jesus and most of them don't appreciate
you making fun of it. I'm sure you know all of this already
so I can't see why you are so fascinated going through all
that hate mail. Religion is a natural human instinct that
science cannot conquer because science does not provide the
answer to our emotional needs which Christianity does (to
some people). Whether there is God or not is basically irrelevant.
You can't prove or disprove there is god. You say to someone
there is no scientific evidence for god; the big bang created
the universe. Someone says who created the gases that created
the big bang? you have no answer. they'll say god. God helps
some people and if you treat religion correctly (there are
ways) it can be a rewarding expierence (more than just an
escape)But if you don't accept God then there's nothing anyone
can do; it's a personal choice for everyone. You're websites
good in that it promotes discussion; but it must be a bitch
going through all that fundamentalist hate mail.
OK Nick, here's
the deal. The main reason that I've been sticking to this
site for so long is because... well, I like girls. I sit in
a coffee shop and watch the girls go by. Some smile, some
come in and talk, while others completely ignore me... and
it's great! Answering the hate mail is an excuse. I don't
care if I spark discussion. I don't care if I get through
to anyone. I just want it to be fun... and I like showing
You see, I already know what I believe. No one is going to
convince me that there's a loving God in the sky that does
only good and a devil down below devoted to evil.
My website does
NOT ask why people have religion. To that I
sarcastically say "duh". The answers are obvious and sensible
(fear, ignorance, hope, loneliness, self righteousness and/or
quite simply an honest belief that it is all really for real).
And the belief in an everlasting life is what makes people
get so stupid about it all (suicide hi-jackings, crusades,
wacky hate letters, etc).
It's all very clear
to me and it fascinates me the things people can make themselves
believe no matter how farfetched and silly it sounds when
put into words. It's the closest thing to witnessing actual
fantasy. And being the Spock-esque logical thinker that I
am, I simply adore the concepts people come up with.
The best proof
that there is no God is that it does not make sense. That,
and there is far too much reality for it to be so. You will
find that all "proof" that God exists has a logical answer
waiting in the wings. It's just that simple Nick.
While I was responding
to your email, one girl smiled at me, another rolled her eyes
and a man on a cell phone fell over a newspaper stand.
What was that you
were sayin' about naturalistic/ non-native religions?
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