"Isn't it a wonderful time to be
That is what a coworker asked me the other day.
"Why?" I asked, "because of all of mankind's
advances in medicine and science, or the 500 channels of HD TV
available to most people in this wonderful country? or wonderful
because we all know that WalMart is open 24 hours a day and waiting for
us to enjoy their low prices all the time?"
"No, isn't it wonderful to be alive
because we will experience the second coming Jesus and the rapture!"
Time seemed to stand still for a few moments, my jaw
hit the floor and my mind wandered off to other thoughts like my two
beautiful children, then i realized what this person had just
said to me. "I'm sorry, but did you just say 'rapture', because
that's what it sounded like, and I thought the "war on xmas" was over
for the season, but since you brought it up, please elaborate on the
returning of your mythological friend and the rapture."
Silence, awkward silence for about 20 seconds. Then the conversation
was over, thankfully, because I'm always happy to debate foolish
notions anytime of the day, but have learned that while at work it's
best to quickly diffuse the situation and get back to work.
Yes it is, it is a wonderful time to be
alive. We are full fledged out of the closet atheists, but amazing
parents, my wife and I, and we love to spoil our kids once in a while.
We do celebrate the "Holiday" as we call it (my daughter chose the
simple name for our religionless exchange of gifts).
What is the harm in keeping the American retail machine rolling and
having a good time unwrapping gifts and eating chinese food and
drinking (at least the adults present). Here is a picture of a couple
gifts given this year, enjoy...
Great news, i was banned from the Internet in web design class for
dress up jesus, it was hilarious, the other students were all like put
the bunny suit on him, and the teacher wanted to play as well, but then
i got the weird system buzz on my screen and the mouse started moving
by its self, i was a believer for like 3 secs, it clicked the little x
at the top and opened up word, and then "this is not an educational
website, your Internet privileges are suspended indefinitely, sorry for
your inconvenience Mr. Cox" , it fucking sucks, and it wasn't god
clicking on my computer, it was the admin, well later, thanks for the
greatest website on the Internet
love your greatest gothkid,
ps thats my sister, she like to get
drunk and hang out with me hehe
Weren't you particularly creeped out by the Reverend Larry Johnson's last email to you displayed here on the right -->
He was obviously troubled enough by your emails to consult his mentor, and his mentor was concerned enough about his protégé to instruct him to cease all contact with you! Even down to the- "Tell him it is your choice to end the correspondence!"
It reminded me of a conversation I recently read on Dawkins site between Sam Harris and Christian author, Andrew Sullivan. After reading both of these exchanges one starts to get the impression that religious leaders are becoming progressively more panic stricken by the voice of atheists. At least that how I see it.
Check out that thing on Dawkin's site too if you get a chance.
I love your site,
|“most disgusting site I've ever encountered”
Subject: sickening site
Without a doubt, yours is the most disgusting site
I've ever encountered, but no matter. Jesus died for you as well as me
and I can only pray you will come to know Him as your Lord and Savior.
However, I am curious about what you do in your spare time: you are
apparently talented, but remember; All good things come from God. Why
not change your site to one that glorifies Him instead of the things
you do now?
Rev. Larry Johnson
Hamilton, AL 35570.
Well, quite obviously because I don't look to
glorify Him. Jeesh, what a silly question.
|“I'll continue to pray for you.”
You have my deepest sympathy. I'll continue to
pray for you.
Reverend, I am an atheist, and hearing that you're going
to pray for me translates as: "I am going to wish
this man to a paradise where he is separated from the
people who went to hell and are suffering for eternity,
begging my Lord and Master for mercy. Mercy that will
never come forth." This is the God you bow to.
And while you picture yourself knelt before this Lord of the Universe
groveling at His feet, your brothers and sisters from earth on fire,
burning in boiling oceans of blood for the crime of not believing the
right story, I ask you- What is the color of your heart? Can it be
anything but black if you've a heaven while others choke forever?
This is your belief. You believe in a heaven while
others suffer. A bliss that excludes people who have a different view
I don't know how an adult manages such a fairy
You need to stop it.
|“I don't profess to know the answers to a lot of
As I said, we have different beliefs. Yes, I
believe not only I but anyone who believes in Jesus as the Son of God
and accepts Him as their Savior will go to Heaven, and, I believe
non-believers will be condemned to hell. I didn't write the Bible, but
I believe every word in it. If this offends you, I'm sorry, but I have
to stand on my beliefs. There are a lot of things about organized
religion that I disagree with, and I feel too many doctrines have
muddied the waters, but I believe the fundamentals of Salvation as
given in God's Word. Yes, I have questioned occurrences here in this
world, such as war, rape, murder, and child rape and murder especially,
and I have questioned God as to why He would let these innocents
suffer. I don't profess to know the answers to a lot of questions such
as these, but I can say from personal experience that my life here has
become immeasurably better since I started believing.
As you well know, many books have been written on
this subject, and theologians have discussed them for ages without
being able to come up with an answer. However, we run a homeless
shelter in Hamilton, AL, and some of the derelicts we see come in here
are so sad. We see men who have given up everything, wives, children,
jobs, homes, and their self-respect to have drugs and alcohol, but
we've seen many of these men turn their lives around when they have
professed belief in God. Our first order of business is to get them
into a clean room, food in their bellies, clean clothes (many of them
come in with just the clothes on their backs). I've found it hard to
counsel a hungry man or woman. We don't start out by trying to pound
God into them. We start out by working on their self esteem and self
worth, letting them know that we care. But we also let them know that
the reason we are here is because the God we love and serve also loves
them, no matter what they have done or believe. A very wise man who
served as our Pastor until his death in 1994 told us of a discussion he
had with someone years ago. The man asked him what if there is no God
as you believe. Bro Hamric said, "Even if that is true, I have
lived a much more satisfying life just by living by the Principles
Christ taught." If you research Christ's teaching, and man lived
by just this one, ''Do unto others as you would have them do unto
you'', this world would be a much better place. We wouldn't have
the violence and mayhem we have today.
I hope this clears up my position on this matter.
Your's in Christ,
Yeah, that's The Golden Rule. Your Bro Hamric
recited The Golden Rule to you which isn't unique to the Christian
religion. Most every religion or philosophical belief contains The
Golden Rule in its teachings in some form or another. So the answer
given to that man when he asked "What if there is no God as you
believe?" should have been:
"If that is true, and there is indeed no God,
then millions and millions of people would have wasted precious hours,
days, years trying reason out stacks and stacks of useless scribes, and
killing, raping, avenging, torturing, and burning villages to the
ground in the name of a fictional character. If it is true that there
is no God then the human race has condoned horrific crimes against
humanity such as witch burning, slavery, suicide bombings, and genocide
with words spoken not by God, but by ignorant, uncivilized, mortal men.
Friend, if indeed there is no God, then history has been forged by
religious zealots, nations have been divided and wars waged in the name
of nothing, children have been taught incorrect life lessons that put
faith above logic, fear above question, bible above science, and story
book characters above real live people, and countless lifetimes wasted
serving a being which doesn't exist. And worst of all, if there is no
God and there is indeed only one life for each of us, then a billion of
those individual lives have lived never knowing that which is true. A
truth which has been repeatedly snuffed out by religious poo-poo heads."
Reverend Larry, you seem to base your core beliefs
on the notion that theologians have argued whether or not they're true
and there's really no way for us to logically or scientifically figure
out answers to things, so you just believe this one, which you think
can't be proven wrong, or inaccurate. Of course we both know that your
Bible-based beliefs can easily be proven inaccurate, but you still
believe them anyhow, now because it contains some usable advice that
helps people. C'mon Larry. That's no reason to believe a book to be
entirely true! Your book also contains some horrible lessons that don't
help at all! Must I list them again?
Rev, you can still teach The Golden Rule to people
without God. People who have no idea who your god is, or what "God" is
can still understand, believe and practice The Golden Rule. And they
can do this without attaching a belief that others will suffer
eternally for not believing a dead guy came alive again then flew up to
paradise without cable wires and a giant crane. You can still teach The
Golden Rule without the apocalyptic premonitions that inspire many to
anticipate the destruction of the human race because of the Second
Coming of their Saviour that's supposed to follow. In short, you can
teach good lessons without separating apart the damned from the
blessed, and that is only to our gain if there is indeed no God.
And there isn't.
|“on the advice of my mentor, Rev Harris, I choose to end the correspondence with you.”
Bob- I've enjoyed the verbal sparring with you, but on the advice of my mentor, Rev Harris, I choose to end the correspondence with you. I pray you will find another outlet for your talents.
It was this avoidance of reasonable questions that was the platform for my eventual break from belief. I was a grown man without proper answers to things. I was making great claims to people's faces and avoiding the reasonable questions which followed. Eventually it all caught up to me, and I am thankful it did.
You've been gyped, Larry. You've committed your life to a lie and surrounded yourself with people who believe the same lie. I feel for you and the situation you're in, but it most certainly does not convince me that the God you've been brought up believing in is real, or the book you cling to is magical.
It's depressing to see a grown man stuck in such a predicament, but I'll tell you this Larry, when I dropped all of that Apocalyptic nonsense and opened my eyes to reality it was tough, but worth it, as most tough changes are.
How does it feel having a mentor who instructs you to flee from inquiry?
Anyhow, best wishes,
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