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So yesterday I attended a service at Revolution
Church in Williamsburg, Brooklyn. In case you weren't aware, this
is the church service (held in the back of a bar) headed by Jay Bakker-
Jim and Tammy Faye's offspring.
He's been getting a lot of attention from his own show on Sundance (One Punk Under God). Having seen a couple of the
Sundance Channel shows I've been wanting to see what he's really all
about for a while now. So this afternoon a friend and I went to the
4:00 service. You wanna know what we did there? We went there with too
high of expectations. That's what we did.
I don't know what I was thinkin' it'd be
but I have to tell ya, I was just as bored as I've ever been at any
church service I've attended. He certainly doesn't make any claims of
being the Next Great Hope or anything of the like, but Christ. His
speaking style is pretty easily summed up- he reads from the bible into
a microphone, then he explains his take on what he just read.
Okay, that's a bit of a short change. His honesty and authenticity make
him very likable, and he's good at explaining the bible so that it
appears liberal. One of the most controversial angles Jay takes with
his Christianity is his declaration that homosexuality is a-okay with
God. And from what I've read that's the main thing that's keeping him
from getting funded by his daddy's connections.
It was an hour long, and after the
service I realized that what I want is to talk with him one on one. I think
that's what'll be interesting. I would love to ask him that list of
questions I had on the radio show which I was presenting to those
Christians at Union. There's a lot I'd like to talk with him about.
I grew up with the Jim Bakker
phenomenon, Jim J & Tammy Faye, the Tammy Faye documentary, and now
the same people who did that are responsible for his Sundance show. I
know that I could talk to him for hours about his beliefs, the punk
thing, and his mom and dad. I wonder if he'll accept my invitation? I
guess we'll see.
The letter I sent yesterday eve:
Hey Jay,
You've started a church in my neighborhood and this afternoon I
attended your service. I heard you speak from Galations about Jesus,
Faith, your mother and your take on the religion you were raised in.
One of the things that I enjoyed most was your openness and honesty. I
too was raised in a Christian home and am doing my best to make it into
a living here in New York, but I've
taken it in another direction >>
I'm emailing you because I would really
like to talk with you and post our meeting on my site. I am an atheist
and I've been quite outspoken about my atheism. And it's no secret,
I've also gotten a good share of attention mocking your god with my
Jesus Dress Up web site and fridge magnets. Of course I'd be willing to
answer any questions you might have as well, and you could do whatever
you wanted with our interview on your end.
I would totally appreciate having this
one-on-one with you. Another thing I appreciated from what I've seen
and read about you is your willingness to speak to anyone about
anything, and strangely that's a unique trait to find among Christian
leaders.
Feel free to email me, or call me about
this. I think both of us could stand to gain from this meeting.
Thank you for your time.
Bob
NormalBobSmith.com
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| “I am an individual who happens to actually know, and
had real interactions with both God and Satan.” |
Dear Bob,
Despite the fact that you are apparently a controversialist and
antagonist, I will give a serious reply to you as to why the Salvation of Satan has not of yet
occurred. I realise that this E-mail may just be used to mock me, but
since I have a sense of humour, I can live with that.
I am an individual who happens to actually know,
and had real interactions with both God and Satan. And knowing the
natures of both, I can truthfully say that the reason that Satan has
not been saved, or has reconciled with God is simple. He does not want
to, in fact refuses to do so. Satan's greatest desire is to supplant
God as God. Obviously, this matter is not negotiable with God. Satan
refuses God's terms for reconcile, that being a return to service of
God in the capacity of a higher Angel, and Satan's admitting wrongdoing
and asking for forgiveness. Satan does not desire to acquiesce to these
terms, and instead resents God. Since Satan knows he has lost, as
although his final defeat has not yet occurred, he cannot match God in
power, or indeed, in anything else, he seeks to drag as many souls into
defeat with him as he can. This is basically it. God has offered Satan
redemption several times and been rejected.
Since you seem to have no belief in the Bible or
in Christian Theology, I will not attempt whatsoever to prove or backup
my statements in any way, as I would be reduced to basic logic, which
would be far too difficult and imprecise of a tool to try to explain
such a complex matter in a format such as this. If you desire to
anything other than disregard my statements out of hand, than you can
look for evidence on your own. I promise you that if you look hard if,
and in seriousness, you'll find the answer.
In closing, I ask that my E-mail address be kept
confidential. You may whatever else you desire with this E-mail,
provided you leave the text unaltered. Good luck in finding a purpose
for your life that has some lasting meaning.- Anonymous.
Alexander The Indomitable
ojitheunseen@gmail.com
There can be no greater service than that of serving God. |
Yes but then is it not our duty to pray for those
even if they appear to be beyond redemption, no matter how impossible
it seems? That is the question I pose to you. Should people have not
prayed for Saddam Hussein to change his ways even if it seemed unlikely
he would? Should people not pray for their son or daughter who has a
problem, no matter how huge that problem is?
And let me ask you this. What is a miracle? Isn't
a miracle something that's beyond what us little humans think is
possible? Isn't a miracle precisely the opposite of things you listed
that God can't do? Isn't the whole point of a miracle the happening of
an event that people would think is totally and completely beyond
comprehension??
I'll tell you what a miracle is NOT, Mr. I- will- not- attempt- whatsoever- to- prove- or- backup- my-
statements- in- any- way! A miracle is NOT the repentance of a desperate criminal on death's row hours before he
must face his own execution! A miracle is NOT the repentance of a child who's been told that if he prays for
forgiveness he will get an eternity in paradise! A miracle is NOT the repentance of a punk rocker who sees that his devotion to Satanism
has left him without hope and deliverance, falling to his knees and
committing himself to a life of Christian Metal!
No. Those are not the miracles of MY God! My God
can do even the things you say it is impossible for Him to accomplish!
My God can move mountains no matter how big! He can count all of the
grains of sand in the universe! He can walk on top of the water's
surface without even getting wet! And Alexander, I promise you, God is
mightier than Satan, no matter what you think!!!!
Oh, how empty your faith is asking me NOT to pray
for this problem! I suppose in your Bible it says: "Pray for
others, unless there seems to be no hope at all, because then that'd be
pretty a difficult task for our God, and probably one of the things He
can't do. Praise be unto Him. Amen"
Professional Controversialist & Antagonist
Bob |
| “As for a duty to pray for Satan, I wouldn't say we
hold such a duty. And I have certainly never received such a command.” |
Mr. Smith,
I am delighted by your rather amusing reply. I say nothing of what my
God can't do. I know of no such category. I only know of what my God
won't do. And handing over His throne is one of those things. As for a
duty to pray for Satan, I wouldn't say we hold such a duty. And I have
certainly never received such a command. As for the possibility of
Satan being redeemed, based on the combination of both my interactions
with Satan, and my understanding of Prophecy, I would say it is quite
'unlikely'. And by that I mean not at all. As for miracles, I have seem
them, both big and small, inconspicuous and grand. I have no problem
with what you have to say about them.
I don't believe in anything limiting my God,
unless it is self-imposed. In my first E-mail I never actually even
suggested you should not pray for Satan, just to set the record
straight. Again, you may do what you will with this E-mail, providing
you follow the aforementioned restrictions.
Alexander The Indomitable
ojitheunseen@gmail.com
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YOUR understanding of the Prophecy! Ha! A tiny
mortal's insignificant mind's understanding of God's Prophecy! A mere
troll in comparison to the One True God of the Universe, and we're all
supposed to go by your understanding of the Prophecy?? An
insignificant dot born destined to an eternal suffering in hell because
that's what we truly deserve, and you want me to consider your understanding of it???? Why not just hand over the whole world to the
human race and let them figure it all out without God, using their
"science," "logic" and their "portable electronic thinking machines???"
Take the understanding of a lamb? I think not, Alex!
I trust in God's understanding! And God Himself
said that ALL THINGS are possible through Him! Luke 18:27! That's Bible
scripture, in case you didn't know! God's Word! And last I checked the
word "all" was pretty goddamn inclusive! These are the words of God,
Alexander! Not your pastor. Not Dr. Luke. Not whoever it is you think
you are! God, Alex. And you, a sinner, a liar, a thief, a law breaker,
are claiming to know better than He! Tell me Alex, have you ever done
anything stupid in your life? Yes? Well then, expect me to take the
advice of a stupo with a grain of salt.
I fall to my sofa bed face first and soak its
cushions in tears of love for you! And for you too, Satan! And I pray
that both of you rise above this distrust and underestimation you have
for THE ALMIGHTY GOD OF FOREVERLAND! Praise Him eternally, from this
life into the next from Hell straight up to Heaven, and everyone
inbetween! EVERYONE!!!
Amen.
Bob |
| “who do you think I'm claiming my understanding of Prophecy from? You guessed it, God.” |
So then, you claim some sort of superiority over me to discard my remarks without any sort of apparent reason? Besides, exactly who do you think I'm claiming my understanding of Prophecy from? You guessed it, God. And as you have just quoted, All things are possible with God. Therefore, what I am saying is perfectly possible, going by your reasoning. So then, exactly what is it you mean by your remarks to me?
Alexander The Indomitable
ojitheunseen@gmail.com
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Without any sort of apparent reason?!?!?! GOD'S WORD ISN'T ANY SORT OF APPARENT REASON?!??!?!?! LUKE 18:27 ISN'T ANY SORT OF APPARENT REASON!?!?!?!?
Alexander, NO ONE has the authority to interpret God's Word other than exactly how God meant it to be translated! ANY human who thinks he has the ability to speak for God or decipher what The Supreme Being really meant by His Words must apparently believe that he is as wise as God! I unabashedly laugh in that person's face! Hahahahahaha!!!!
Alexander, let me ask you one important question. Who is it exactly that you spoke to who claimed they were intellectually superior enough to translate God's Word precisely as God meant it to be translated? What imperfect, mortal sinner are you dubbing "God's Official Translator?" I would like to shake his hand for possessing the ability to grasp the mindset of The Almighty God Of The World! Please, tell me the person's name, Alex, because we should all bow our heads to this man who comes to us with the miraculous talent to speak for God!
Praise the man who speaks for God! Bow your heads before the mere human who proclaims to know precisely what God's wishes are EXACTLY, for he is clearly the runner up to the Master Of the Universe and deserves an eternal pat on the back for this incredible achievement!
Praise be to that guy.
Bob |
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| “if you don't respect him, you shoud respect the
feelings of the billions of people in the world that follow him.” |
Dear Mr Bob,
I hope you would change the character of Jesus at this site jesusdressup.com,
he is our Saviour, you can't use his character to reach your goals, he
is not as any other charactor, if you don't respect him, you shoud
respect the feelings of the billions of people in the world that follow
him.
please try to change it, if you did you will win the other life not
this one.
regards/
Joanna
joanna81_2000@yahoo.com |
I don't understand your letter to me. I have
ALREADY reached many of my goals using His character. The site has
provided me with a working income, an artistic outlet, connections with
people from all over the world, and dozens more goals that I set out to
accomplish upon posting the page over 6 years ago! You have stated a
blatant untruth in your email and this leaves me to think I shouldn't
take the other advice you presented.
Curse you for trying to waste my time and squash
my dreams.
Bob |
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