A little story of mild frustration for you:
So here's the deal Bob, I work in an interesting environment. Basically, me and this other guy Ken are reformed ex-Christians. We both spent our younger years believing that at any moment, we could all disappear and be taken up to heaven and that if we were driving cars they would just like crash or something and probably cause total chaos. Right...
There's only about seven of us in my office, we work in an IT department, and for the most part my coworkers are pretty liberal. This new guy, Dean, just started working with us. Dean is not by any means a holy roller but he occasionally mentions going to church and even being somehow involved in a bible class. I'm not sure if he teaches or just attends but he's definitely more than your Christmas-and-Easter Christian. The thing is, Dean is just a super nice guy and he's pretty cool too. In fact, he's even a democrat! Go figure... Anyway, ever since our holiday party, we've been having a few drinks with him after work and have gotten to know him a little better. He's got a wife and kids, at least half a brain, he's done some traveling, he's a fairly handsome guy, blah blah blah. I mean the guy's so freakin' normal that we can hardly believe he's been duped by worlds oldest myth. Oh, and he's fucking 47 years old! Shit, I thought I was a late bloomer, believing it all until I was about 20. But whatever.
See now I'm a pretty nice guy too, which is why I desperately want to save my poor friend Dean from this Jesus business. At the same time, I don't want to insult him. He knows what I think, which I why I'm sure he's reluctant to bring up his religion. And I respect his not preaching to me which, again, is why I've been hesitant to just send him a link to normalbobsmith.com. Instead, Ken and I have taken a more sublte route. We've both printed out a couple of your "God Is Fake" tracts and put them up in our cubes. Occasionally we'll even rearrange them for no reason, pinning it up in a different spot when he's near our desks. I *know* he's seen them up but so far he hasn't said anything.
So I wait... For Dean to say something, or for him vanish into thin air, leaving a pile of clothes in his chair. I'm pretty sure neither is ever going to happen.
I was recommended to this site by a friend of mine, Kristen, and thought that I would take a peek. Wow. Very interesting I must say!
I had no idea that you were the brains behind Dressup Jesus. That is pure genius. Kudos for that. You are also incredibly talented artistically, and I bet in many other ways, but I wouldn't know since I just started browsing the website. You can be sure that I will return quite often. If I ever set up paypal or get a decent job, i'll buy a magnet or two and support this wonderous site!
-Teija Aspegren (pronounced..."Day-ah")
I stumbled into your site a few weeks ago, and I instantly became obsessed. I check daily for new updates and I have dressed Jesus up in every possible combination of outfits. Your site is a beacon of reason in an otherwise demented world wide web.
You recently sent out an email poll asking xians a tough question about their faith. I (being very much not an xian) decided to flip the question around to make it more applicable to my beliefs (or, rather, lack thereof): If the Bible and Christianity were true, and God, Jesus, Hell and Satan truly existed, would you want to know the truth?
My initial reaction was YES! I would love to know that people don?t really die, that I would someday be seeing my deceased loved ones and maybe even my childhood schnauzer dog again. Whenever something bad happens to me in this life, I could just Remember Job and know that God is only hurting me because He loves me. I bet could also use religion to justify all sorts of things that my currently Atheist heart finds immoral, like war, slavery and genocide! What fun! Wow, religion is bliss!
I know deep down, however, that although religion maybe bliss, it is nothing more than blissful ignorance. I guess you can put me down as an ?I.? In my mind, the beliefs of xianity are a complete impossibility.
Keep up the good work! And I apologize for the horrible, grainy photo I attached - it's the only one I could find at the moment - but hey, at least I sent one!
|“Jesus is God come to earth in the flesh to die for us, and yet you mock Him blah blah blah...”
I pray that the Holy Spirit will open your spiritual eyes and ears and that you will see and accept Jesus as your Savior and Lord. He came to take your place of punnishment for your sins because He loves you and does not want you to suffer eternal pain, suffering and darkness...and that is the punnishment for unforgiven sin...Jesus is God come to earth in the flesh to die for us, and yet you mock Him...my goodness...my heart grieves for those who live in spiritual darkness...you must not mock God, creator of heaven and earth...of all things!...yet your dress-up page has done just that...I would remove that as quickly as possible and ask God to forgive me...then I would ask Jesus to come into my heart and make me a new person...one saved, righteous, holy, sanctified and filled with God's Holy Spirit...a spirit of love and reverence...In Jesus' name I ask that the Holy Spirit would touch your heart right now and allow you to see a need for Jesus as your Savior, not some comic-strip figure for you to dress up...We have all been given the measure of faith to believe Jesus is the son of God...God come in the flesh to save mankind...it's what we chose to do with that measure of faith...
Chose to ask the spirit of Jesus into your heart...God will come into your heart and change you IF you will let Him...God loves you...don't mock Him!...I love you with the love of Jesus...my Lord and Savior!
No Cindy, you are the one that does not have enough faith! I have dedicated my life to praying to Jesus Christ for the salvation of the Prince Of Darkness. I believe in a God so loving, so caring, and so merciful, that even Satan himself can be saved from eternal damnation, freeing the world of sin. Forever.
I have dedicated my life to praying for fools like you, who do not have the full measure of faith required of a true Christian! When Satan is finally saved, and the world rid of sin forever, I, Cindy, will sit on the highest throne and you will kiss my feet.. And Satan's too.. Because he'll be next to me on the throne! God loves me more than he loves you, because I love God more than you love Him.
I pity your lack of faith.
P.S. Don't forget, miracles are a dime a dozen in Heaven.
|“The Archangel Michael will defeat Satan and hurl him down from heaven... Next, he will be bound by an angel and thrown into the pit for 1000 years...”
I am sorry that I have offended you, however, if you looked at the dress-up page with open eyes, I'm certain that you would see nothing Godly in it...also, praying for the salvation of the prince of darkness is precious time wasted...there is no salvation for satan, his end is straight-forward;...Jesus Christ will crush Satan's kingdom completely, and the last enemy to be destroyed will be death (1 Corinthians 15:24-26). The Archangel Michael will defeat Satan and hurl him down from heaven (Revelation 12:9). Next, he will be bound by an angel and thrown into the pit for 1000 years (Revelation 20:1-3).
Finally, Satan and his forces will be cast into the lake of fire permanently (Revelation 20:10,14-15). This is when sin and death will cease to exist and Jesus Christ triumphantly hand over the kingdom to God the Father (1 Corinthians 15:24-25). Also, look at (Isaiah 14:12-15) "How you are fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How you are cut down to the ground, You who weakened the nations! For you have said in your heart: `I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; I will also sit on the mount of the congregation On the farthest sides of the north; I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will be like the Most High.' Yet you shall be brought down to Sheol, To the lowest depths of the Pit. Nothing is going to change this...no prayers...satan committed the highest form of treason...exalting himself above God...to believe anything else is to be deceived...pray for the lost's deliverence from satan's deception, not for satan, the father of lies, the master of destruction...
As for my love for God, I pray for an even greater measure of His pure love in me, for His compassion, for His character, for His forgiveness and for His ability to humble myself before Him...to walk and live a Godly life in Christ...without Him I am nothing and can do nothing...I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me and in Whose blood I am made the righteousness of God...Bob, I love you with the love of Jesus Christ...Lord and Savior..
No no no, I am sorry that I offended YOU! I understand how frustrating it can be when YOU don't think your God is merciful enough or powerful enough to forgive the evilest of all beings and invite him into the Kingdom of Heaven to help in the battle against sin forever! Jesus Christ came in peace, not violence and hatred! He will not be doing all of the crushing and destroying that you, Cindy are so thirsty for! (Luke 18:27) God said, All things which are impossible with men are all absolutely possible with The Almighty God! ALL things, Cynthia! Not "some things," or "most things!" ALL things are possible with God, and that includes forgiveness, no matter how much you hate who it's speaking of!
Do you not think that God can manifest such a miraculous miracle? Is your God not big enough to forgive the most evil among us? Oh, my sad and underestimating Cynthia, I pity you, for the God you bow down to sounds so bitter and vengeful. Such a jealous and irritable Saviour you imagine. Ha he ha! I'm sure He finds your half-love images of Him very amusing! You certainly have found a weak, pouting God to praise, silly Cindy.
You are lost and tangled in Satan's vines of deception! You do not see that he too fights to repel Jesus' love at all cost! Do you not see that? Do you not see that by simply praying for Satan you could abolish evil and sin forevermore for all of mankind, and every living entity in the whole entire universe?!?
Cindy, would you like to know why I think you do not pray for the elimination of all sin forever? Would you like to know the reason that I think you avoid saying the prayer that could save future generations from the curse of eternal hell fire? I think the reason is quite simple. You, Cynthia, like your sin. You enjoy your sins far too much to let them go. You would rather have your guilty little forgiven sins instead of ridding sin from existence.
God is so disappointed in your characterization of Him.
I pray that He has mercy on your soul!
|“There is no forgiveness for satan...do not be deceived by him...”
There is no forgiveness for satan...do not be deceived by him...Christ came to die for mankind...satan is not human and will never be...he is the father and architect of sin...Revelation 20:10 says, "And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire..." Also notice 2 Peter 2:4, "For if God spared not the angels that sinned,, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness to be reserved unto judgment". NO! Devils are not saved, why then would you believe that satan who led the rebellion would or could be spared?...I believe through deception...just like Eve in the Garden...
As far as my love is concerned, it is impossible to have true love without hate. A Christian cannot love God without hating satan. The more a Christian loves God, the more he hates sin and the things that are anti-Christ...(of satan.) He should hate what God hates. He should hate every false way. Psalm 119:104, ``Through Thy precepts I get understanding: therefore I hate every false way.'' When someone says a person can go to Heaven by good works, the Christian should hate the false way. When someone says that one can go to Heaven by taking of the sacraments, joining the church, or getting baptized, the Christian should find hatred swelling in his heart for the false way. There is no way to love God's way to Heaven without hating Satan's false ways to Heaven.
Revelation 20:10 says exactly what you are arguing against...and I believe and know the Word of God is true...all translations say the same thing...glory to God!
The devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet are also. They will be tormented day and night forever and ever. WEB
And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where are also the beast and the false prophet; and they shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. ASV
And the Evil One who put them in error was sent down into the sea of ever-burning fire, where the beast and the false prophet are, and their punishment will go on day and night for ever and ever. BBE
And the devil who deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where are both the beast and the false prophet; and they shall be tormented day and night for the ages of ages. DBY
And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. KJV
And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. WBS
and the Devil, who had been leading them astray, was thrown into the Lake of fire and sulphur where the Wild Beast and the false Prophet were, and day and night they will suffer torture until the Ages of the Ages. WEY
and the Devil, who is leading them astray, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where 'are' the beast and the false prophet, and they shall be tormented day and night -- to the ages of the ages. YLT
I will continue to pray for you Bob, however, the bible teaches us never to argue with the wrong attitude, or for the wrong motives...to never argue to win, but to help the other person...and never to fight...so, I leave you with this:
2 TIMOTHY 2:23-26 NKJ
23: But avoid foolish and ignorant disputes, knowing that they generate strife.
24: And a servant of the Lord must not quarrel but be gentle to all, able to teach, patient,
25: in humility correcting those who are in opposition, if God perhaps will grant them repentance, so that they may know the truth,
26: and that they may come to their senses and escape the snare of the devil, having been taken captive by him to do his will. With the Love of Jesus, I am...
Do you know what a miracle is? It appears that you do not. I am so sorry if you did not ever learn it in English class! This is what the dictionary defines a miracle as (Have you ever seen a dictionary? It looks like something you should go to the bookstore and purchase. It has many definitions for many different words that you may not understand the meaning of.) : "an event that appears inexplicable by the laws of nature and so is held to be supernatural in origin or an act of God. "
That means that it is something that cannot happen, but does happen! And you, my dear naive Cynthia have just illustrated what looks to me to be the most impossible thing to ever happen! Gee I wonder if this is where a miracle could fit in? Oh Cindy, how you crave your forgiven sins, you must have some extraordinary forgiven sins you want to hold on to if you are so against the notion of eliminating sin forever.
I cannot imagine how greedy one must be who would rather swim in their own selfish sins than to spare every remaining generation the sad fate of eternal oceans of hell fire for ever and ever!!
Cindy, I am not going to quarrel with you either, the Bible says to avoid foolish ignorant disputes, knowing that they only generate strife. Cindy, it does not serve the Lord to quarrel. We need to be gentle and we need to teach others to be gentle. I have learned the definition of humility and I am wasting my time trying to correct you, my opposition. I pray that you will come to your senses and escape the snare of the devil and understand that even his sins can be forgiven.
It looks to me like you only pray for the easy way out. I pray for miracles!
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