The David Schmiedeberg files
Part 2

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Subject: not ashamed
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 21:39:48 EDT
From: Xxgdsmckxx@aol.com

THIS IS A POWERFUL MESSAGE. PLEASE READ ALL OF IT. I AM PASSING IT ON BECAUSE I AM CERTAINLY NOT ASHAMED TO DO SO.

In light of the many jokes we send to one another for a laugh, this is a little different: This is not intended to be a joke, it's not funny, it's intended to get you thinking..............

Dart Test...

A young lady named Sally, relates an experience she had in a seminary class, given by her teacher, Dr. Smith. She says that Dr. Smithwas known for his elaborate object lessons.

One particular day, Sally walked into the seminary and knew they were in for a fun day.

On the wall was a big target and on a nearby table were many darts. Dr. Smithtold the students to draw a picture of someone that they disliked or someone who had made them angry, and he would allow them to throw darts at the person's picture.

Sally's friend drew a picture of who had stolen her boyfriend. Another friend drew a picture of his little brother. Sally drew a picture of a former friend, putting a great deal of detail into her drawing, even drawing pimples on the face. Sally was pleased with the overall effect she had achieved. !

The class lined up and began throwing darts. Some of the students threw their darts with such force that their targets were ripping apart. Sally looked forward to her turn, and was filled with disappointment when Dr. Smith, because of time limits, asked the students to return to their seats. As Sally sat thinking about how angry she was because she didn't have a chance to throw any darts at her target. Dr. Smithbegan removing the target from the wall.

Underneath the target was a picture of Jesus. A hush fell over the room as each student viewed the mangled picture of Jesus; holes and jagged marks covered His face and His eyes were pierced.

Dr. Smithsaid only these words... "In as much as ye have done it unto the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto Me." Matthew 25:40.

No other words were necessary; the tears filled eyes of the students focused only on the picture of Christ.

Here's that game if you want to play it too.

“If we were living in Israel during the time of Moses, we would not think it severe.”

Thanks for you reply, Bob. I've been trying to avoid arguing with you, because I don't think it would be productive for either of us. Even if I presented a brilliant case to you for why you should become a Christian, I don't believe it would persuade you to become a believer. No one was ever argued into Heaven. Having said that, I do believe that you may become a Christian before you die. I know this because I know that many other atheists have become believers.

You quoted Leviticus 20:14 as an example of why you don't accept the Bible. Of course, you need to take this verse in its context. It was meant for the Jews living in Israel before Christ. It seems like harsh punishment to us, but if we were living in Israel during the time of Moses, we would not think it severe.

But we Christians no longer have to live under the Mosaic law. One of the purposes of the law was to show us of our inadequacies and to point the way to Jesus.

I have two verses for you today, Bob:
I Corinthians 1:18
Psalm 14:1

Hope to hear from you soon
David Schmiedeberg
lytnin88@sbcglobal.net


You know, instead of saying "I've been trying to avoid arguing with you, because I don't think it would be productive for either of us." I wish you'd say instead: "I've been trying to avoid arguing with you because I have no answers and I don't want to be exposed for believing in something unquestioned."

No, better yet I'd like you to say: "I've been trying to avoid arguing with you because I want to judge your actions and tell you that you're wrong but I don't want to have to explain my reasons for believing what I do. I just want to do the judging part! Waa waa waa!"

Oh, wait, here's what you should say to me: "I don't think for myself! My life is based on bible verses, not life experience or individual thought. Please change your way of thinking to my way of thinking because then neither of us will have to face the inconsistencies in the Bible! And if you could just stop trying to reason everything out then I could forget that it all makes no sense and continue to point at bad people and look superior in doing so."

There, that last one is what you should be saying. Phew! That would be fun! And yes, I understand that about Leviticus and the laws of the land at that time. The other verses in the bible don't pertain to us either for the same reasons! I think it shows how wonderfully empty verses are in the real world. That's where you're living now David, the real world. This is why the Bible doesn't work.

"If we were living in Israel during the time of Moses, we would not think it severe." Please always follow this up with: "If we were living in Israel during the time of Moses, we would also believe that animals sometimes talk."

Bob


“The earth may well have been created millions of years ago, plenty of time for the dinosaurs to live and die before Adam and Eve came on the scene a few thousand years ago. ”

You mentioned that one of the reasons you can't accept the Bible is you can't reconcile how the dinosaurs fit in with the Genesis account of creation. The Bible says "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth," but it doesn't say when the beginning was. The earth may well have been created millions of years ago, plenty of time for the dinosaurs to live and die before Adam and Eve came on the scene a few thousand years ago.

David Schmiedeberg
lytnin88@sbcglobal.net


Um, no.
God gives a very detailed count down of what was made on each and every day, even going so far as to describe what a day is: "there was evening and there was morning, a second day" Genesis 1:14.

Unless you're saying that the dinosaurs were around before He made water, the seas, vegetation, plants, all things made on the SECOND day. Then somehow He made light, the seasons on the third day, and then the fourth day He made the living creatures of the earth, Genesis 1:19-20. I suppose that includes the dinosaurs, right? Or are you saying that there was no light, vegetation and living creatures during the dinosaur times (before days 2, 3 & 4)? I'm confused, David Schmiedeberg.

Have you even read the Bible?

 

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