I'm back at school, I've taken on a philosophy class. Currently,
we're studying Descartes. Now, he's got an argument as to why God
has to exist that I'm having trouble proving wrong. I was hoping
my dear friend Bob could come up with some flaws in his argument
that I could bring up in class/my next paper. So, if you're up for
something outside of the usual hatemail banter, check out Descartes
Meditations (particularly #3 and #4).
up, he basically says that as beings, we have this idea of infinity
and perfection. Since we are ourselves finite and imperfect beings,
there is no way we could possibly come up with the ideas of infinity
and perfection unless we had a greater point of reference. Therefore,
back in the day when infinity and perfection were first thought
of, it was only because God put the idea there, being an infinite
and perfect being Himself. If not, there would be no possible way
we could have come up with those ideas on our own.
this is similar to the argument that there was no gravity until
Newton discovered it (i.e. something cannot exist until it is recognized
as existing and, in this case, could only have developed from the
presence of a higher power, namely God). Hope you can help me out
argue that mankind cannot comprehend infinity, and the idea itself
is only one of fantasy (more or less). It's no different than our
ability to imagine anything that isn't possible. It's simply our
creativity dreaming up such concepts. It's hardly evidence that
there's a Supreme Being. The idea of infinity isn't a miracle
or incredible. We're simply able to think outside the box. It's
all part of our brain's evolution.
been theorized that the point in evolution when our brain began
to fantasize and create ideas was the same point we were able to
comprehend our own mortality. The two abilities coincide because
they are similar. They are both concepts that separated us from
the animals we'd once been. And this is also the same time we started
inventing gods to worship. Coincidence?
it could just as easily be argued that our incapability to comprehend
infinity is proof that there is no God too. But I'd never argue
that. It's just as weak of an argument that imagining a rock to
be a hammer could only happen with God's suggestion.
were able to deduce that all things end at some point, and then
they asked... "What if they didn't?"
There's your dumb infinity.
idiot Descartes if putting two mirrors face to face proves God.
I saw your site...
Subject: I saw
Now I'd like you
to visit this
site. Perhaps it will make you think about who
you are making fun of.
Wow. That convinced
I'm tearing down the site tomorrow and stomping my computer
into the ground.
men don't dishonor women, or make a mockery out of something
sacred and pure.
You're a very sad,
strange little man. From your snappy little reply I can gather
this info about you right away. You're a very insensitive,
unpleasant person. First I go to your site and am completely
insulted by your lack of tact or respect for anyone whatsoever.
Dressing up Christ like a paper doll as He suffers on the
cross for humanity? That's a new low.
Then I saw your
lovely site on Catholic girls. What kind of a man are you?
Surely not a real man. Real men don't dishonor women, or make
a mockery out of something sacred and pure. Do you make a
living doing this kind of thing? Why would anyone pay for
ideas that surely come from the mind of a twisted twelve year
old? I'm normally a pretty easy going person, but you really
offended me. Sorry Bob.
This coming from someone who's religion treats women as second
class citizens? Your chauvinist belief teaches little girls
that they'll never be as important as a man. Hell, you're
just above a goat in the Bible's food chain. If women were
thought of any less in the Bible you wouldn't even be worth
your weight in firewood.
women?!? Have you read the Bible? You
dishonor women when you refuse them the human right to speak
their mind and command them to obey a man. You do realize
that those girls you speak of on my site are doing what they're
doing of their own free will, right? And they're doing it
regardless of what people think, because it's what they believe
and feel strongly about. The girls I'm friends with never
take shit from a man... no matter how hard I try give it to
them. You are not dishonoring women when you let them shove
their atheist beliefs in the face of some ranting bible thumping
man... on stilts!
You dishonor women
when you hop on an idea that has degraded women throughout
its entire history and still stands on the concept that women
are less valuable than men. Christ, I wonder if you're even
aware of what you believe. You blind fucking tool.
You need to climb
out of the dark ages with your beliefs and pull yourself into
an era where a woman can be a scientist specifically so that
she can refute the Bible and its prehistoric misconceptions
of a woman's roll to a man.
Oh yeah, and the
MAN you worship is a fake.
not be able to play....take it off your site as soon as
posible....I think that this type of game should not be
out there...take it off your site...
also respond back
I think that this
game is morally wrong and should not be able to play. I also
think that this game is very wrong and hurtful because of
you having a Jesus Dress Up Game. I would greatly appreciate
it if you would take it off your site as soon as posible.
I think that this type of game should not be out there for
young children to see.
Thanks for your
P. S- Please take
it off your site i would appreciate it very much, also respond
This is a very
interesting angle you've taken. I hadn't considered this before.
Would you care to elaborate on your feelings about Jesus Christ
You see, my feeling
is that Jesus Christ was, in fact, not the Son of God. I think
many people forget how absurd such a claim is sometimes and
they just tag along and believe the stories just because that's
what people have told them. My belief is that the Bible is
fictional stories and folklore that's gotten way out of hand
and become a religion to people who really badly want a God
and Heaven waiting for them after this life.
To me this is clearly
My argument back
to you would be that I do think it's a good thing for children
to see because it lets them know that they have a choice to
believe what they want. And I feel that the truth (atheism)
is a far better belief, with a lot more logic and evidence
backing it up.
So, no, I will
not remove my Jesus Dress Up page and I'd also suggest that
you question your own beliefs a little further. It seems to
me that you're really far off and this could really mess with
your head in a negative way... and also the heads of the children
you're teaching that bull shit to.
Thanks for the
P. S- I hope you
don't mind me dismissing your request, but if you'd like,
I'd be willing to ban you from the page so that you're not
ever welcome back to it again. Would that help any?
all the people who believe in Jesus this is just not expectable!
Firstly, im a 16
year old child my self so me seeing it is making me very upset.
And personally you being atheist is your choice but For all
the people who believe in Jesus this is just not expectable!
And you should believe in Jesus or God! I believe sense you
don't believe in a God you are going to hell. And I Do NOT
think that I need to question anything because I have a God
to believe in and I will never ever stop believing in Jesus
Christ. THIS is NOT messing up with my head but I do think
that it is messing up with your head in a negative way. And
everyone I know believe in God or Jesus. And may be you should
have been taught to believe in God or Jesus when you were
younger! And that is NOT B-S!!
P. s- I do mind
you dismissing my request for you putting a stop to the Dress
up game.. Please do ban me from your page because i will never
go to it and will never let anyone in my house or family go
THANKS FOR NOTHING,
Okay then, you
asked for it. You are now officially banned!
Now it's simply
an endurance test. Let's see who breaks first. I'm almost
ready to bet money that it'll be you. Oh, and I can't wait
until you come crawlin' back!
hahaha your funny
i need no reason to ever come back to your website thanks
for banning me
Oh, you just wait.
You'll be back. Everyone always comes back. And I don't care
if you're on your knees begging and licking my feet, there
isn't even a chance that you will be unbanned!
Oh I cannot WAIT
for that day!
By the way, I just DOUBLE banned you!
Let's see who's cryin' now.